Category: Credit Cards

Happy New Year, and thanks to everyone who put together a guest post over the break! I still several posts left that’ll go live on Fridays or Saturdays starting next week. If you’d like to put a post together, please reach out! Also, if you reached out to me over the break and never heard back, I promise I wasn’t just ignoring you – I was ignoring everyone. I’ll be playing catchup this week.

Now let’s dive in:

  1. The Chase Aeroplan card’s 1.25 cents per point cash-out limit was set at 200,000 points annually for 2025. Practically speaking there wasn’t a hard limit before this, but there was a soft limit of about seven figures after which you’d probably get a Chase shutdown.
  2. The Citi Shop Your Way card sent offers for calendar year 2025 that mirror those sent at the beginning of 2024. The credits are for spend in gas, grocery, or restaurants and reset monthly. We’ve seen:

    – $200 per month for $2,000+ spend
    – $150 per month for $1,500+ spend
    – $100 per month for $1,000+ spend

    For those who can’t math, that’s $1,200-$2,400 annually in statement credits on a no-annual fee card, and those will stack other offers too. It’s pretty big I guess. Also, apparently there’s another offer for travel and entertainment purchases monthly through 2025, with 5% back up to $80 monthly. Some have both offers. (Thanks to birt and tkpoints)
  3. The US Bank Leverage Visa business card has a sign-up bonus of $750 after $7,500 spend in 120 days and the annual fee is waived for the first year. This card is typically easy to get if you have an existing US Bank Relationship, and often even if you already have the card.
  4. Staples in store has fee-free $200 Visa and Mastercard gift cards through Saturday, limit nine per person per day, though in practice it’s actually limit nine per transaction.

    These are Pathward gift cards.

MEAB seen celebrating New Years Day 2025.

EDITOR’S NOTE: I’m on an annual blogging vacation for the last two weeks of the year. To make sure you still have content, some of the smartest members of the community have stepped up with guest posts in my absence. Special thanks to TeddyH for writing a thoughtful contrarian post to the conventional wisdom in the community. I’ll see you on January 1!

Introduction

Oh, the 5/24 status. In a sea of rules that we have to keep track of in our game, 5/24 is without a doubt the most well-known churning rule. Even CNBC has an article (EDITOR’S NOTE: A terrible, awful article) on it as an excuse to dump TWENTY-FOUR affiliate links!

Perhaps because of this, most churners don’t even consider what could happen if you did decide to go over 5/24. You’ve probably decided to stay under 5/24 years and years ago—when you first found out about credit card SUBs prolly on The Points BlogTM brought to you by Chase® SapphireSM Reserve®. Since then, you probably have never thought about going above 5/24. Like how you also always stop the microwave one second before it beeps or if your name ends with 233 how you always step on every rake you see.

I’m here to present my unpopular opinion today that if you are reading this blog, you almost definitely should go over 5/24. Here’s why.

The Current State of Churning Chase Cards

Based on my scientifical survey of all of my imaginary friends, people who stay under 5/24 do so mainly because going over would lock you out of the Ink Train every 3 months, the Sapphire MDD every 48 months (which has been patched), and most importantly, stop the flow of oh-so-valuable Ultimate Rewards points which you need for all those Hyatt redemptions you are going to make. Oh, and did I mention the coveted Southwest Companion Passes?

To these people’s credit, the plays I just mentioned above are cult classics and they are so easy and straightforward! Buying VGCs at Staples with a CIC and turning them into MOs is usually the first thing I will talk about if one of my non-imaginary friends happens to get curious about

MSing. Unfortunately, though, it’s starting to look like these straightforward plays are becoming a thing of the past, and with it the Chase landscape has changed significantly even just over the past year.

The Ink Train

In the past, it was possible to open a new Ink card roughly every 3 months. With sign-up bonuses around 90,000 points, that would net you 360,000 points if you opened an Ink every 90 days for the whole year. Unfortunately, Chase has tightened up approvals for new Ink cards significantly, and reports show that it’s essentially impossible to get a fifth Ink card if you hold four, and even if you hold just three your approval odds would only be at 18%.

On top of that, Chase halved the referral bonus cap on the Ink cards to 100,000 points, significantly limiting two-player mode as well.

And the cherry on top? You can’t even product change Ink cards until 3 months after you open the card nowadays.

These new changes reduce the 5x Office Supply capacity, invite more application scrutiny, as well as reduce the referral cap, making the Ink Train significantly less appealing than what it once was.

What should I do instead?

Like I was saying previously, the modern MS landscape is quite different from the traditional Staples runs of the past. Consider the key differences:

  • High multipliers are more important than the multiplying category
  • In fact, the category being bonused is no longer important.
  • It is more important than ever to consider cards that can phone a friend

There are Amex cards out there that give you 475,000 points instead of 90,000 points for an Ink. Why stop there? Apply twice in a row and now you can phone a friend on this card too for another set of 475,000 points.

Those Hyatt Points

But Teddy, where am I going to stay if I don’t get a fresh Ink SUB every three months? You may ask. Here is where I would argue that the microwave logic is coming back into play. With four Ink cards a year you are earning 360,000 points in sign-up bonuses. Once you maximize the office supply spend on these cards you’ll end up with 875,000 points. If you did the same thing with the aforementioned Amex card, you’d end up with 1.9 million points, netting you over 2 times more than you would get with the Inks.

Yes, Hyatts have good redemptions but I can tell you straight away that if I told you to double the points price on any of the rooms you would start to reconsider. Those 45,000 URs you used for Park Hyatt New York could have been 97,650 MRs; and with 97,650 MRs even if you decided to transfer MRs to Hilton (shudder) and book the newly devalued (second shudder) Waldorf Astoria, you’d still have a decent chunk of change left to put a mother-in-law (third shudder) you hate in the adjacent Doubletree.

Treat Points like a Currency

And currencies can always be exchanged.

Remember that many airlines sell miles at a discount very frequently. That cash back card that can phone a friend can be used to make an Aeroplan redemption.

Better yet, you can even trade with friends instead of dealing with the airlines/hotels themselves to make it even sweeter. Yes, you can always find a buddy that will buy Amex points from you at 1.35cpp; just like how you can also find a buddy that will sell Hyatt points to you at the same price. Does that mean you’ve transferred Amex points to Hyatt? I’ll leave you and your new Guest of Honor booking to decide for yourselves.

These jet bridge advertisements are getting… oddly specific.

EDITOR’S NOTE: I’m on an annual blogging vacation for the last two weeks of the year. To make sure you still have content, some of the smartest members of the community have stepped up with guest posts in my absence. Special thanks to today’s anonymous author, who candidly shares his story on the dark side of credit card churning for writing this post. I’ll see you on January 1!

Opening a credit card a few days after I turned 18 was one of the stupidest financial decisions I’ve ever made in my entire life. (Partly because my dad saw it and took away the credit card he had given me – but that’s not the story I’m here to tell today.)

In December 2017, I opened the Discover IT card. The sign-up bonus was only $50, but it was also still eligible to be included in the first year double cash-back match promotion. In Q1 2018, the card’s 5% category was gas stations. I was in college and got my first taste of manufactured spend (MS) by doing midnight cigarette runs to get 10% cash back. 

The problems started with Discover’s generous offer of 12 months at 0% APR. I began to spend money I didn’t have with only vague plans how I could pay it back. I would never borrow money from a friend or relative like that, but somehow to borrow from the bank didn’t feel like I owed anything to anyone, and nobody knew about it either. 

I also had some friends in the credit card game that were making decent money, which to me seemed like an easy route out of my own credit card debt. Six months after opening my first card, I applied for the Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select. It was declined. I begged reconsideration, hand wrote letters describing in detail why they should give me the card, but never got an approval.

Discover has a practice of raising your credit limit whenever your card is maxed out for several months in a row, probably because there’s a good chance that they’ll earn 29% APR on your balances. I’m embarrassed to say that in 2019 when my promotional 0% APR ended with Discover, I was accruing big interest charges and I was scraping to make minimum payments. 

My great grandfather called his credit cards “The American Thieves” for good reason.

In April 2019, I opened my first American Express card, a Cash Magnet. I hit the $300 sign-up bonus by paying my dad’s car insurance, and I promised myself that I wouldn’t touch the 0% APR offered with the card. Then, I paid off my Discover card, and the joy of making that final payment to clear my Discover balance is indescribable to someone who’s never been in credit card debt. Finally, I found a steady manufactured spend (MS) route and began to make a couple hundred dollars a month from 1.5% cash back opportunities and opened an Ink Preferred with an 80,000 point bonus. 

Somehow though, when 2019 ended I owed quite a bit of money to American Express, and unfortunately the credit line was considerably higher than my Discover.

So for the second time, I made the mistake of thinking that more credit cards were the answer to my problem. I opened an Amex Business Platinum with a 100,000 point bonus which was considered high at the time (wow times have changed). All was going well until a Financial Review froze me out of the bonus. I was out of options and ready to drop out of college to go to work and pay it off, but when my dad found out, he bailed me out but with a stern warning to quit the credit card game.

For the next couple of years, I stayed away from credit cards and out of credit card debt. Life is much less stressful that way. Then the Sapphire Preferred 100,000 point bonus came around, and was too tempting to resist. I followed shortly afterward by getting an American Express 150,000 point Business Platinum stacked with employee card offers. 

Unfortunately, the Business Platinum had a 0% APR and the debt cycle started again. I did manage to earn a few good bank bonuses with the money floated from the 0% APR offer, but when the year ended I was still short by several thousand dollars. I took a “My Chase Loan” at 8% interest (again times have changed!) I slaved and scrimped to make the payments on that loan.

I again swore to stay away from credit cards, but the Chase Ink 90,000 point offers broke my resolve fairly quickly, and the vicious 0% APR cycle started up again.

In mid-2024, I crossed the line from casual hobby MS’er, to MS as a side job. In Q3 and Q4 I’ve sold over 7 million points and used plenty for travel as well. (I know some readers are laughing at my low volume, and some jaws are dropping.) I can say that I almost definitely would not be in this position today if I hadn’t opened those first cards back in college.

Was it worth it? If I had instead invested all the money I spent on things I couldn’t afford, as well as the money I paid in interest payments, I would be a lot more financially stable than I am today. But would I have worked so hard if it wasn’t to pay off debt? Probably not. I did enjoy my college years by riding on credit card debt.  If I had never started with credit cards, chances are that by now I’d have a different side hustle and some more savings. A side effect of manufactured spend is that handling so much money that belongs to the banks but is revolving through your accounts greatly devalues your mental picture of money. I’d probably spend less in everyday life if my side job wasn’t manufactured spending.

In short, I got started with credit cards very early on in life and quickly fell into the 0% APR trap, resulting in many financially irresponsible decisions. I now make a solid profit each month off my credit cards. Was it worth it? I would say not. You can’t turn back the clock though. I hope my taking the time to write this posts saves at least one person from making the same mistakes I made.

– anonymous churner

Sometimes the churning cup of sunshine and rainbows leaks.

MEABNOTE: I’ll be going on a blogging vacation at the end of the year and there won’t be any daily posts between December 18 and December 31. After that, we’ll ring in the new year on January 1, 2025 with the 2024 version of Travel Hacking as Told by GIFs though, so no need to be up in arms, but I guess it’s ok if you’re up in legs.

By popular demand we’ll have at least a few guest posts during the break. If you’d like to write one, please reach out, I’d like to find guest posts for the whole break!

  1. Do this now: Register for 5x categories on quarterly cards:

    – Chase Freedom and Freedom Flex: Grocery, fitness, gyms, hair, nails, spas, and Norwegian Cruises (welcome to the world of sponsored 5x categories friends)
    – Discover IT: Restaurants, home improvement, and some streaming
    – Citi Dividend: Amazon and some streaming
    – US Bank Cash+: I choose utilities and electronics stores

    I try and knock these out on the first day or two of the quarter so I don’t have to think about them after.
  2. The Citi Shop Your Way Rewards card sent new mid-month targeted spending offers for online spend through January 14, 2025. We’ve seen:

    – 250,000 Shop Your Way Rewards points with $1,000+
    – 200,000 Shop Your Way Rewards points with $750+
    – $70 statement credit with $1,000+
    – $50 statement credit with $750+

    As usual, these stack with other offers. (Thanks to birt, Adam, Lindsay, and Tyler)
  3. Giftcards.com has 10% off of its own gift cards through December21. These cards can be used to buy other, third-party fee-free gift cards on the site with promo code EPICGIFT. These probably won’t track on shopping portals when you buy them, but when you use them on another purchase that’ll probably track. There are several credit cards that earn 3x on giftcards.com.
  4. Answering a few of the questions we asked on Friday with American Express’s new Business Platinum $50 quarterly Hilton credit:

    – Will this work with HiltonGiftCards.com? Yes
    – Will this work buying gift cards at a hotel? Yes
    – Will this work at Hilton restaurant? Usually, watch for a 15% extra hold for tip
    – Will this work for a regular hotel to pay your bill? Yes, depending on the front desk’s skillset
    – Who is John Galt? I dunno; or if I do, I don’t want to talk about it here, why do you ask?

    Also, orange-you glad I didn’t say banana? (That’s called a “long con” friends, at least on internet time scales.)

Yes, I know I deserve this.

  1. Do this now: Enroll your American Express Business Platinum cards in the new $50 quarterly Hilton credit. A quick Q&A:

    – Will this work with HiltonGiftCards.com? Probably
    – Will this work buying gift cards at a hotel? Yes
    – Will this work at Hilton restaurant? Probably, stick to resorts to be sure
    – Will this work for a regular hotel to pay your bill? Yes
    – Is AmEx going to raise the annual fee? Probably not in 2025, but yes
    – Is Dell going away in 2H2025? We can only pray
    – What’s America’s favorite fruit? Banana
    – Did anyone make it this far? Yes

    If you’ve got a bunch of business Platinums, just make sure that you get an email for each card. Sometimes the site enrolls the wrong card, or reenrolls a card that you didn’t select.
  2. Avianca LifeMiles can be purchased for as little as 1.27 cents each with a sale running through the end of December.

    Conventional wisdom in the hobby says “never buy miles except to top-off your account for a redemption.” The wisdom is showing its age when transferable points are cashed out easily into interest bearing accounts, and points costs have dipped below 1.3 cents. For example, yesterday I was looking at an ANA First Class redemption that was 114,000 LifeMiles. I could have paid about $$1,447 to buy those miles directly rather than transferring miles in. Obviously, there’s more to come on this topic in the future.
  3. Southwest has extended its schedule for fall travel including Labor Day weekend through October 1. Booking a cheap flight that’s far out and within two weeks of a more expensive flight that you actually want to take is a great way to hedge booking costs, assuming flight schedule change between then and now.
  4. AA is retooling its AAdvantage program for 2025. The quick summary:

    – New million-miler tiers at four (Platinum Pro) and five (Executive Platinum) million miles
    – Systemwide Upgrades will last through the end of the elite year after March 1, 2025
    – Redeem miles for inflight food, probably at a terrible rate
    – New Loyalty Point awards, all low value

    You still can’t earn million-miler tiers with Loyalty Points, only with flown miles.
  5. Giant, Giant Foods, Martins, and Stop & Shop stores have 8x-10x points on Lululemon and Barnes & Noble gift cards, depending on chain through Thursday, December 19.

$50 breakfast at a Hilton Garden Inn in Lubbock (prolly, I can’t be bothered to fact check).

MEABNOTE: I’ll be going on a blogging vacation at the end of the year and there won’t be any daily posts between December 18 and December 31. After that, we’ll ring in the new year on January 1, 2025 with the 2024 version of Travel Hacking as Told by GIFs though, so no need to be up in arms, but I guess it’s ok if you’re up in legs.

By popular demand, we’ll have at least a couple of guest posts during the break. If you’d like to write one, please reach out!

  1. H-E-B Stores have a $20 H-E-B gift card with the purchase of a $100 Home Depot, Lowe’s, and some other, stupider brands through Tuesday. Scale with multiple H-E-B accounts. Side note: H-E-B is one of the most annoying things that I have to type somewhat regularly.
  2. Chase Offers has 10% back on Frontier Airlines on up to $420 in spend through January 23. Watch for refund policies on Frontier. Side note: Frontier is one of the most annoying airlines that I never have to fly.
  3. The Bank of America Alaska card’s 75,000 miles after $3,000 spend in 90 days bonus is still around. Side note: Yesterday, some bloggers started pushing a 70,000 mile Alaska sign-up bonus instead because it pays them affiliate revenue, and based on the coordinated timing, it’s likely a higher than usual payout too; caveat emptor.
  4. Breeze has a 50% off fare sale with promo code GOALS for flights booked by tonight. Evidently, they saw that the other second tier US airlines had a fare sale yesterday and didn’t want to be left out.

Happy Thursday!

Even this brand of soda is easier to type than H-E-B.

MEABNOTE: I’ll be going on a blogging vacation at the end of the year and there won’t be any daily posts between December 18 and December 31. After that, we’ll ring in the new year on January 1, 2025 with the 2024 version of Travel Hacking as Told by GIFs though, so no need to be up in arms, but I guess it’s ok if you’re up in legs.

  1. Do this now: Register for the upcoming Alaska Airlines premium card’s waitlist and earn 500 miles instantly. You’ll also earn a bonus 5,000 miles if you apply for the card when it comes out using your waitlisted link. Apparently the premium card will have an annual fee of $395 and:

    – Earn 3x on foreign currency transactions and foreign USD transactions
    – Earn 3x on dining
    – Have a “Global Companion” pass for award tickets
    – Have free WiFi vouchers and reduced award ticketing fees

    The card arrives this summer. (Thanks to Esteban)
  2. Many US Airlines are running a holiday fare sale:

    – Alaska award and paid through Monday
    – JetBlue paid through tonight, 25% off with promo HELLO25
    – Southwest award and paid through tomorrow night
    – Avelo $40 off round-trip paid travel through tomorrow night with promo FLY40

    My tea leaves suggest it’s going to be a rough Q1 for second tier airlines, especially Spirit which couldn’t even afford to run a sale.
  3. Two of the three main Incomm gift card sites have new promos (the third one’s promo is still in effect):

    – VanillaGift.com: No purchase fees on $150+ with promo code VGHOLIDAY24
    – TheGiftCardShop.com: No purchase fees on $200+ with promo code HOLIDAY24

    Ok fine, the third one is MasterCardGiftCard.com with promo code NOFEES24. I don’t like repeating a deal, but I guess I can’t leave you hanging.
  4. American Express has a targeting offer for 75,000 Membership Rewards after $6,00 spend in four months on Blue Business Plus no annual fee card, available via your dashboard if targeted.

Happy Wednesday!

A typical MEAB reader left hanging, probably.

MEABNOTE: I’ll be going on a blogging vacation at the end of the year and there won’t be any daily posts between December 18 and December 31. After that, we’ll ring in the new year on January 1, 2025 with the 2024 version of Travel Hacking as Told by GIFs though, so no need to be up in arms, but I guess it’s ok if you’re up in legs.

  1. Do this now: Register for Hilton’s Q1 promotion for double points for stays between January 1, 2025 and April 30, 2025.
  2. The Barclays Frontier Mastercard has a sign-up bonus of 100,000 miles after $3,000 spend, Gold elite status, and a $100 flight voucher. You have to have another airline’s co-branded card to be eligible, and you have to spend in either 90 or 180 days, depending on how you interpret the terms and conditions, or more accurately how Barclays interprets the terms and conditions. You can verify your reading comprehension and that your other airline co-branded card is eligible here.

    Make sure to put a reminder in your phone to go verify the other airline co-branded card in Barclays’ systems after you receive the Frontier card. (Thanks to FM)
  3. American Express’s referral bonuses are currently at a relative maximum, and in the last week or so more people have been able to generate the heightened offers. The referrer will get between 15,000 and 30,000 Membership Rewards, and the referred offers are:

    – Business Gold: 200,000 Membership Rewards after $20,000 spend in three months
    – Business Platinum: 250,000 Membership Rewards after $15,000 spend in three months

    It’s ok for P1 to use P2’s referral and vice-versa, and if you don’t have one of those, ask around for a heightened referral offer and make a new churning friend; it’s a great way to network too.
  4. The Daily Churn podcast’s most recent episode discusses two interesting plays combined together that are below surface level but sort-of out in the open, starting at 28:00 minutes in:

    – Gift of College Cards at giftcards.com
    – The Kudos quasi-portal card-linked bonus program (use a friend’s referral code)

    The quick summary is that they’re working well together.
  5. American Express has a new Membership Rewards to JetBlue 25% transfer bonus through December 31, which makes the transfer ratio 1:1. You’ll often do better booking with a Business Platinum though.
  6. A PSA and warning: American Express links that were put together artificially by combining multiple offer components in an unintended way keep finding their way onto public blogs, which is ok, but they’re not labeled or explained as manufactured artificial links. My suggestion: Always know the provenance of no-lifetime language links that you’re using. DDG has appropriately labeled this recently, but not all bloggers are doing so. What’s the link? This time it’s a 100,000 Membership Rewards personal Gold link with a $6,000 spend in six months requirement, but others have surfaced over the last couple of months for Business Golds and Business Platinums too.

    How risky are these links? It’s been over 6 years since there were reports of adverse action for using unintended links, so the risk is probably low, but I don’t like when you’re not told that you’re taking a risk with a manufactured link, even if it’s low. One day of course American Express may decide that it doesn’t like people making links themselves in ways never intended to work. Since no one asked my opinion: The risk isn’t worth it at 100,000 points, but if it were 80*270,000 points we’d be having a serious conversation.
  7. Spirit Airlines has a status match to either Silver or Gold that lasts 90 days, and a there’s a fast-track challenge to hold it for longer (I imagine the challenge won’t make sense for any of you unless your name starts with an “S” and ends with a “hay”). Status doesn’t let you pick a big front seat for free, but it does waive plenty of other fees.

Breakage from failed reading comprehension illustrated.