{"id":8971,"date":"2024-01-08T04:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-01-08T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/?p=8971"},"modified":"2024-01-07T17:01:02","modified_gmt":"2024-01-08T00:01:02","slug":"the-comenity-shopping-cart-trick-a-lesson-in-probing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2024\/01\/08\/the-comenity-shopping-cart-trick-a-lesson-in-probing\/","title":{"rendered":"The Comenity Shopping Cart Trick: A Lesson in Probing"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.breadfinancial.com\/en\/search-results.html\" class=\"ek-link\">Comenity Bank<\/a> probably doesn&#8217;t qualify as a FinTech given that they&#8217;ve been around since the 1980s and have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.breadfinancial.com\/en\/search-results.html\" class=\"ek-link\">major co-branded card<\/a> contracts like <a href=\"https:\/\/d.comenity.net\/ac\/advantage\/public\/home\" class=\"ek-link\">AAA<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/c.comenity.net\/ac\/victoriassecret\/public\/home\" class=\"ek-link\">Victoria&#8217;s Secret<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/d.comenity.net\/ac\/nflvisa\/public\/home\" class=\"ek-link\">the Texans NFL card<\/a>, and the <a href=\"https:\/\/d.comenity.net\/ac\/houzzmastercard\/public\/home\" class=\"ek-link\">Houzz (?) Mastercard<\/a>, but they do provide an object lesson in how FinTechs and some banks can provide unique backdoors into the financial system. Specifically, today we&#8217;ll focus on the <a href=\"https:\/\/ficoforums.myfico.com\/t5\/Credit-Card-Applications\/The-Newest-SP-SCT-Alive-Again\/td-p\/5655276\" class=\"ek-link\">Comenity Shopping Cart Trick<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Shopping Cart Trick<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s probably already familiar to seasoned churners that sometimes you&#8217;ll get a better offer for an airline credit card <a href=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2022\/03\/08\/tuesday-catchup\/\" class=\"ek-link\">when you&#8217;re making a dummy booking<\/a> or when you&#8217;re applying for <a href=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2023\/09\/27\/wednesday-quad-28\/\" class=\"ek-link\">a card from an in-flight application<\/a>. What&#8217;s probably less obvious is that sometimes your account or credit profile will be impacted differently based on how you apply too. Specifically:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-ek-indent\" style=\"--ek-indent:20px\">With Comenity co-branded cards, if you add a dummy item or two to your shopping cart and then apply for the card during check-out, they&#8217;ll almost never perform a hard-pull of your credit report. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course if you have bad credit or no credit, this is an enticing proposition. For most of you reading the blog, at face value there&#8217;s not much there other than as a mental insight into bank processes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Lesson<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>The public facing side of credit cards, like lifetime language, sign-up bonus terms, and which card has the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/amex\/comments\/r78kb5\/new_platinum_card_designs_revealed\/\" class=\"ek-link\">worst design<\/a>, aren&#8217;t the only aspects of a card and its impact on your finances. Instead, credit reporting, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/CreditCards\/comments\/ufnzky\/paying_citi_card_with_debit_card_still_an_option\/\" class=\"ek-link\">unregulated debit payments<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bankrate.com\/finance\/credit-cards\/citi-flex-loan-guide\/\" class=\"ek-link\">pseudo-loan like products<\/a> play a role in the immediate enduring value of a card too. Always be probing!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Happy Monday!<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-editorskit-rounded\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"450\" height=\"276\" src=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/image-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8973\" style=\"width:420px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/image-3.png 450w, https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/image-3-300x184.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\" style=\"font-size:14px\">Pictured: SideShowBob233 attempts the Fluz shopping cart trick.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Comenity Bank probably doesn&#8217;t qualify as a FinTech given that they&#8217;ve been around since the 1980s and have major co-branded card contracts like AAA, Victoria&#8217;s<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_editorskit_title_hidden":false,"_editorskit_reading_time":0,"_editorskit_is_block_options_detached":false,"_editorskit_block_options_position":"{}","footnotes":""},"categories":[54,12,56],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8971","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-credit-cards","category-ms-hints","category-wisdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8971","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8971"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8971\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8976,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8971\/revisions\/8976"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8971"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8971"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8971"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}