{"id":3696,"date":"2022-01-28T04:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-01-28T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/?p=3696"},"modified":"2023-04-18T11:57:51","modified_gmt":"2023-04-18T17:57:51","slug":"post-mortem-stockpile-gift-card-liquidation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2022\/01\/28\/post-mortem-stockpile-gift-card-liquidation\/","title":{"rendered":"Post Mortem: Stockpile Gift Card Liquidation"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4 id=\"introduction\">Introduction<\/h4>\n<p><a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stockpile.com\/\">Stockpile<\/a> has been a bastion of manufactured spend opportunities since at least 2017; let\u2019s count some of the ways:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/milesperday.com\/2018\/06\/deal-dead-stockpile\/\">Treating credit cards as debit cards<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.doctorofcredit.com\/stockpile-waiving-fees-for-all-giftcard-purchases-11-26-11-29\/\">Allowing purchases of $10,000 in gift cards per day<\/a> with a credit card for Black Friday weekend<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.doctorofcredit.com\/stockpile-removes-all-trading-fees-including-credit-card-fees\/\">Opening the flood gates for $10,000 in gift cards per day<\/a>, any day<\/li>\n<li><a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2021\/12\/21\/tuesday-triple-9\/\">Allowing $1,000 in gift card purchases per day<\/a> with rotating email, IP, and credit card<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 id=\"underground-ms\">Underground MS<\/h4>\n<p>Even when all of the above died there were still several non-public ways to load Stockpile, including:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>With a credit card masked by some digital wallets (when correctly configured)<\/li>\n<li>Using certain widely available gift cards that Stockpile treated as debit<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>With the above methods, you could load $6,000 per week<em> per payment method<\/em> per player, and you could do even better if you bought <a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/nearly-fee-free-57842206\">anonymous Stockpile gift cards too<\/a>. Well, all of that came crashing down earlier this week like it was <a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/quote\/BODY\/chart?p=BODY#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-\">BeachBody stock<\/a>, with a new <a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/help.stockpile.com\/en\/articles\/374553-is-there-a-dollar-limit#:~:text=You%20can%20choose%20any%20whole,broken%20up%20into%20separate%20transactions.\">$100 per rolling 24 hour purchase limit with any card<\/a> for funding your account. Currently the only way I know of to get more volume is via ACH, which obviously is a non-starter for manufactured spend.<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"lessons\">Lessons<\/h4>\n<p>It\u2019s no secret that I love FinTechs for manufactured spend, and lessons from Stockpile apply to other companies:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Try <em>everything<\/em> when a platform takes cards (Credit cards, gift cards, rewards debit cards, digital wallets, crowbars, etc)<\/li>\n<li>Limits can be per-funding type<\/li>\n<li>Limits can be different than advertised<\/li>\n<li>There are often backdoor ways into scaling<\/li>\n<li>When a company has been good for MS and something dies, that doesn\u2019t mean stop probing, a very patched ship probably still has a leak somewhere<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Have a nice weekend and go pound those FinTechs like you\u2019re Gallagher and they\u2019re watermelons.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-editorskit-rounded\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A car bumper that's broken but held together with shoelace stile stitching.\" class=\"wp-image-3698\" sizes=\"(max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px\" src=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/stockpile-1.jpeg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/stockpile-1.jpeg 632w, https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/stockpile-1-300x219.jpeg 300w\" width=\"420\"\/><figcaption>Stockpile\u2019s repair job to keep credit cards and gift cards out of its system.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Introduction Stockpile has been a bastion of manufactured spend opportunities since at least 2017; let\u2019s count some of the ways: Treating credit cards as debit<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_editorskit_title_hidden":false,"_editorskit_reading_time":1,"_editorskit_is_block_options_detached":false,"_editorskit_block_options_position":"{}","footnotes":""},"categories":[12,62,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3696","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ms-hints","category-shenanigans","category-whomp-whomp"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3696","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3696"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3696\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7109,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3696\/revisions\/7109"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3696"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3696"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3696"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}