{"id":3001,"date":"2021-11-11T04:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-11-11T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/?p=3001"},"modified":"2023-04-18T12:09:29","modified_gmt":"2023-04-18T18:09:29","slug":"new-credit-card-buzz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2021\/11\/11\/new-credit-card-buzz\/","title":{"rendered":"New Credit Card Buzz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Two new credit cards entered the travel hacking sphere this week. It\u2019s too early to tell how gameable they\u2019ll be, but it\u2019s not too early to get an opinion on how useful they seem from a site that has no financial interest whatsoever vested in whether or not you apply for a credit card.<\/p>\n<p>To that end, today I\u2019ve tried to summarize what\u2019s unique about these cards and leave out crap that won\u2019t matter to most of you, because usually that stuff is just chaff to make you think you\u2019re getting a bigger value then you\u2019ll probably end up with (see the $120 annual Equinox credit).<\/p>\n<h4>Captial One Venture X<\/h4>\n<p>Affiliate-free information page: <a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.capitalone.com\/credit-cards\/lp\/venture-x\/lp1\/\">Capital One Venture X<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table is-style-stripes\">\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Sign-up Bonus<\/td>\n<td>100,000 Capital One points after spending $10,000 in six months<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Annual Fee<\/td>\n<td>$395, not waived for the first year<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Bonus Categories<\/td>\n<td>\u2013 10x Hotels and Rental cards <em>only<\/em> when booked through the Capital One travel portal<br \/>\u2013 5x on Flights <em>only<\/em> when booked through the Capital One Travel Portal<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Major benefits<\/td>\n<td>\u2013 Primary rental car protection<br \/>\u2013 Trip delay protection (for delays six hours or longer, or overnight)<br \/>\u2013 Cell phone protection<br \/>\u2013 10,000 bonus points every card renewal<br \/>\u2013 $300 travel credit<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Issuer quirks<\/td>\n<td>\u2013 Capital One pulls from all three major credit bureaus<br \/>\u2013 If your credit score is too high (say, above 800), they probably won\u2019t approve you<br \/>\u2013 You may have better odds of approval if you note that you often carry balances during the application<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Is <strong>this card worth it the first year<\/strong>? I think so. The points you earn from $10,000 in spending for the sign up bonus and the $300 travel credit will cover the annual fee, and you\u2019ll still have the bonus to use to pay for travel directly or to transfer partners.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is this card worth it for year two and beyond?<\/strong> No, probably not. Capital One\u2019s transfer partners certainly lag the offerings of Chase and American Express, and likely lag those of Citi too. They also lack a good hotel transfer partner. After year one, I\u2019d rather keep:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A Citi Double Cash and a Citi Premier which will have a total annual fee of $95 with stronger earning potential and the same to better transfer partners. <\/li>\n<li>An American Express Personal Gold which has a total annual fee of $295, stronger earning potential, and better transfer partners<\/li>\n<li>A Chase Sapphire Preferred or Chase Ink Preferred which has a total annual fee of $95, stronger earning potential, and much better transfer partners<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>American Express Morgan Stanley Blue Cash Preferred<\/h4>\n<p>Affiliate-free information page: <a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/apply.americanexpress.com\/amex-morgan-stanley-credit-cards\/\">AmEx Morgan Stanley Blue Cash Preferred<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table is-style-stripes\">\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Sign-up Bonus<\/td>\n<td>$300 after spending $3,000 in three months<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Annual Fee<\/td>\n<td>$95, waived for the first year<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Bonus Categories<\/td>\n<td>\u2013 6% at grocery stores and supermarkets, but only up to $6,000 per year<br \/>\u2013 3% on gas stations and transit (but not airfare or car rentals)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Major benefits<\/td>\n<td>\u2013 $100 annual credit after spending $15,000<br \/>\u2013 0% interest for all purchases within the first year<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Issuer quirks<\/td>\n<td>\u2013 American Express probably won\u2019t do a hard pull of your credit if you already have another American Express<br \/>\u2013 You have to have a Morgan Stanley brokerage account to qualify (<a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/windbagmiles.com\/2018\/04\/23\/it-worked-for-now-i-have-a-morgan-stanley-amex-platinum-for-now\/\">$5,000 in Access<\/a> will do)<br \/>\u2013 You won\u2019t be able to use a referral link for this card, it\u2019s only available by head-on application<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/figure>\n<p><strong>Is this card worth it the first year?<\/strong> Well, if you don\u2019t have another good manufactured spend card for gas stations, probably yes. If you do though, the real benefit is the $300 sign-up bonus \u2014 and that\u2019s pretty weak compared to $750+ offers seen elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is this card worth it for year two and beyond?<\/strong> If you don\u2019t have another card that bonuses at gas stations and you\u2019re good at manufactured spend, definitely. $15,000 worth of manufactured gas station spend to offset the annual fee is child\u2019s play with Speedway.<\/p>\n<p>That said, I\u2019d rather just have a Citi Double Cash and a Citi Premier which earns transferrable miles, has better earning potential for the long term and also earns 3x at gas stations, and it can still be cashed out at the same rate. That combo also has a $95 annual fee, but doesn\u2019t offer a published benefit for offsetting that with spend (of course a retention call to Citi will typically yield the same end-result).<\/p>\n<h4>What I Did<\/h4>\n<p>Morgan Stanley Blue Cash Preferred: <span style=\"color: initial;\">I have better options for gas stations than the Morgan Stanley Blue Cash Preferred, so I wrote this card off.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Capital One Venture X: I applied with the intent of holding it for one year, and I was denied (likely my credit score is too high).<\/p>\n<p>Good luck out there, and have a drink for me at the Venture X party if you make the cut!<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-style-editorskit-rounded\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3009\" sizes=\"(max-width: 979px) 100vw, 979px\" src=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/image.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/image.png 979w, https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/image-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/image-768x513.png 768w\" width=\"420\"\/><figcaption>The Capital One Venture X party that excluded me. (With thanks to @nutella for the <a class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/2021\/08\/05\/bank-of-america-on-our-minds\/\">updated BoA image<\/a>.)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two new credit cards entered the travel hacking sphere this week. It\u2019s too early to tell how gameable they\u2019ll be, but it\u2019s not too early<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_editorskit_title_hidden":false,"_editorskit_reading_time":3,"_editorskit_is_block_options_detached":false,"_editorskit_block_options_position":"{}","footnotes":""},"categories":[54],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3001","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-credit-cards"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3001","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3001"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3001\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7165,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3001\/revisions\/7165"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3001"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3001"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/milesearnandburn.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3001"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}